Comments on: Piracy to Blame for Downturn in PC Game Sales? Or…. http://tf.erzz.com/2007/03/19/piracy-to-blame-for-downturn-in-pc-game-sales-or/ Rage has no spellcheck! Mon, 06 Sep 2010 00:55:55 -0700 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: Seer http://tf.erzz.com/2007/03/19/piracy-to-blame-for-downturn-in-pc-game-sales-or/comment-page-1/#comment-8201 Seer Fri, 07 Sep 2007 11:39:41 +0000 http://tf.erzz.com/2007/03/19/piracy-to-blame-for-downturn-in-pc-game-sales-or/#comment-8201 Hey Dfrag Lots to chew on there but I think you are confusing two seperate issues. Everyone knows there are bugs on release and even after a multitude of patches. I program a lot of stuff myself and am well aware fo the complexities. But toooften developers use this as a crutch. The analogy we make at work is the old car one. Cars are incredibly complex machines, they also now have a lot of software running in them. To expect a new car design to hit the streets without any problems is impossible. But you know what? The SHOW STOPPERS will always be smoothed out. The ABS system works, the car starts, the airbag system will have the crap tested out of it. A bug with the Radio or milometer isnt so important. Everyone accepts that, pirates and all :) The point being on day one the new Ford will be drivable and safe even if the CD player may have a glitch when skipping a few tracks. Software should be the same. It should start, perform its basic duty and if there is an error in the AI then fine. As I said above though... I have not bought one EA Sports game in 5 or 6 years that has worked at this basic level. 9 times out of 10 the thing just doesnt launch. This has been on an enormous range of hardware and Windows versions from 95 to Vista. The ONLY way these games have worked for me is by finding and downloading a crack! The irony is that the problme is always the copy protection system which is teh problem and consequently sending me running into the arms of the piracy rings!!! Hey Dfrag

Lots to chew on there but I think you are confusing two seperate issues.

Everyone knows there are bugs on release and even after a multitude of patches. I program a lot of stuff myself and am well aware fo the complexities. But toooften developers use this as a crutch.

The analogy we make at work is the old car one. Cars are incredibly complex machines, they also now have a lot of software running in them. To expect a new car design to hit the streets without any problems is impossible. But you know what? The SHOW STOPPERS will always be smoothed out. The ABS system works, the car starts, the airbag system will have the crap tested out of it. A bug with the Radio or milometer isnt so important.

Everyone accepts that, pirates and all :) The point being on day one the new Ford will be drivable and safe even if the CD player may have a glitch when skipping a few tracks.

Software should be the same. It should start, perform its basic duty and if there is an error in the AI then fine. As I said above though… I have not bought one EA Sports game in 5 or 6 years that has worked at this basic level. 9 times out of 10 the thing just doesnt launch. This has been on an enormous range of hardware and Windows versions from 95 to Vista.

The ONLY way these games have worked for me is by finding and downloading a crack! The irony is that the problme is always the copy protection system which is teh problem and consequently sending me running into the arms of the piracy rings!!!

]]> By: Dfrag http://tf.erzz.com/2007/03/19/piracy-to-blame-for-downturn-in-pc-game-sales-or/comment-page-1/#comment-8100 Dfrag Tue, 04 Sep 2007 16:02:22 +0000 http://tf.erzz.com/2007/03/19/piracy-to-blame-for-downturn-in-pc-game-sales-or/#comment-8100 Everyone will give themselves a so-called legit excuse to steal. I often wonder how does cracking a game actually make it play better. Cracking a game doesn't make it play better, but it definitely makes it more easily distributable. I cracked many games and yet none of them seem to work any better or have the so-called improved speed, graphics, and game play. All the people who commented on the forums of other web sites have said the same thing that it makes the game more playable, when in fact comparing the legit and pirated side-by-side, there's no difference. I heard pretty much all of the crap. No money, can't find the CD, the developers deserve it, the developers already make too much money, there are full of bugs, I'm missing specific driver, therefore must not purchase the legit one and keep copying to benefit myself but screwing developers is legit. This is common speech for criminals, period. PC games cost $500K to $1 million bucks to develop. If company A took out a loan for 1 million bucks, they need the PC sales to pay off that loan. When piracy of the game runs rampant, there's no rich dude to offset the lost revenue, there is no insurance. So they're basically throwing money down the toilet and putting themselves in debt, and everyone use just blows them off and gives them the finger. But guess what the pirates will ALWAYS make up an excuse accusing the developers as the BAD GUY, and them as the GOOD GUY. So developers make a game the legit way, customers get the game the illegal way and here I hear developers labeled as the BAD GUY for trying to do it legit, and pirates labeling themselves as the GOOD GUY. So obviously PC developers are going online so they can sell multiplayer games instead of a true single player experience. All software has bugs. Name one, one piece of commercial software that is very popular and used today worldwide that has ZERO software bugs, NAME ONE. Like I said, pirates will always make up excuses, because criminals are exactly the same. Everyone will give themselves a so-called legit excuse to steal. I often wonder how does cracking a game actually make it play better. Cracking a game doesn’t make it play better, but it definitely makes it more easily distributable.
I cracked many games and yet none of them seem to work any better or have the so-called improved speed, graphics, and game play. All the people who commented on the forums of other web sites have said the same thing that it makes the game more playable, when in fact comparing the legit and pirated side-by-side, there’s no difference.
I heard pretty much all of the crap. No money, can’t find the CD, the developers deserve it, the developers already make too much money, there are full of bugs, I’m missing specific driver, therefore must not purchase the legit one and keep copying to benefit myself but screwing developers is legit.
This is common speech for criminals, period.

PC games cost $500K to $1 million bucks to develop.
If company A took out a loan for 1 million bucks, they need the PC sales to pay off that loan. When piracy of the game runs rampant, there’s no rich dude to offset the lost revenue, there is no insurance. So they’re basically throwing money down the toilet and putting themselves in debt, and everyone use just blows them off and gives them the finger.

But guess what the pirates will ALWAYS make up an excuse accusing the developers as the BAD GUY, and them as the GOOD GUY. So developers make a game the legit way, customers get the game the illegal way and here I hear developers labeled as the BAD GUY for trying to do it legit, and pirates labeling themselves as the GOOD GUY.
So obviously PC developers are going online so they can sell multiplayer games instead of a true single player experience.

All software has bugs. Name one, one piece of commercial software that is very popular and used today worldwide that has ZERO software bugs, NAME ONE. Like I said, pirates will always make up excuses, because criminals are exactly the same.

]]> By: Brandon Blackmoor http://tf.erzz.com/2007/03/19/piracy-to-blame-for-downturn-in-pc-game-sales-or/comment-page-1/#comment-5885 Brandon Blackmoor Mon, 11 Jun 2007 03:29:25 +0000 http://tf.erzz.com/2007/03/19/piracy-to-blame-for-downturn-in-pc-game-sales-or/#comment-5885 Amen, brother. Amen, brother.

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